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Drat. Now you've got me hankering for meatballs, and my desire to roast a turkey is lessening with each moment...

The F&W version got rave reviews from readers. As soon as Turkey Day is through, I'm going to give that one a shot...

So frustrating! I always wonder about whether chefs really want to share their recipe to the letter, lest we learn all of their tricks and not go out to eat? And if the recipe is only someone's best guess at what the recipe is they should tell you that. Nonetheless, they look super yummy, and maybe the food and wine recipe is the "real" one?

I think your swedish meatballs were the best meatballs I've ever made (and eaten). But yeah, you took out a lot of fat from the recipe so maybe that was part of the problem. But braising meatballs is a great idea nonetheless.

Very interesting. I make these all the time using a recipe that was printed years ago in the SF Chronicle. It's different from the one you post in a few major ways and several minor ones (like different amounts of spices). Importantly, the Chron recipe has onion and garlic in the meatballs, and they are cooked through in a "braising liquid" that has a quart of tomatoes, yes, but also stock, wine, basil, etc. It comes out fantastic. I have also baked them till firm and them put them in my regular red sauce, and they're excellent that way, too. But I think a sort of dry sauce that comes from just the one can of tomato would not be so great.
Here's a link to the article with the recipe:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/02/09/FDGO9B4IL81.DTL&hw=a16+meatballs&sn=002&sc=1000

Along the same line, have you watched an episode on Food Network and then checked the recipe? What they say and do on TV and how the recipe is written are sometimes quite a bit different.

Ooh, I just went down the meatball road a few weeks ago and found myself terribly short of sauce as well! What's up with that? It was painfully obvious from the get-go though, so I just doubled the sauce part of the recipe. I *loved* how they came out, but I am tempted to try your baking method as the frying action is not my favorite thing.... In any event, may you eat meatballs that make you speechless soon!

And they sounded so promising...

On a side note I always oven cook my lamb or pork burgers in the oven instead of frying just because I never fancy standing over the hob for long in the evening.

well, they look very pretty, at least, your meatballs. and i love the idea of baking them in the oven as they are always so messy on the stove. i am seriously dedicated to the herb meatball recipe in the chez panisse cafe cookbook - check it out.

Oh man, all that build-up for such a disappointing result! Now you definitely have me craving meatballs. I want to try to F&W recipe for dinner tomorrow. Looks delicious.

I once read that bread, soaked in tepid milk or water and the mashed finely with a fork was the key to moist and fluff meatballs. Maybe worth a try?

Thanks for posting a less-than-perfect experience; it's reassuring that you have them too. My best friend just went to this restaurant and was raving about it.

Erin - curiouser and curiouser! How many versions of A16's meatballs ARE there? Hrmph. To be honest, I didn't think that simply dumping a can of tomatoes on top of the meatballs and braising would really work, but it did. Even just that hour in the oven did wonders to the tomatoes, the flavors in the meatballs sort of leached into the sauce.

Johanna - ooh, thanks for pointing that recipe out. Is there anything that Chez Panisse doesn't do right? :)

Merritt - if you make them, report back! The rest of these meatballs are now in the freezer...

Honeybee - that's a good thing to keep in mind. I'm wondering if on the next go-around, I might mix the breadcrumbs into the wet ingredients and then stir that mixture into the herbs and meat. We'll see.

What a bummer that the recipe you used didn't work out! I made these meatballs myself about a year ago from the Food & Wine recipe and they were fantastic (though a bit too salty). A few weeks ago I decided it was time to make these meatballs again, and I had to search back online for the recipe. After comparing the SF Chronicle, LA Times, and Food & Wine I again made the F&W version and again they were excellent. Something must be slightly off with the other version (I think you're correct in pinpointing the trouble as volume of tomatoes and time in the oven). You must give these another go and use the F&W recipe - well worth the effort!!

I will preface my comment with the caveat that I have not (yet) tried any of the recipes listed in your post or the comments. However, I have to believe the extra braising would make a HUGE difference in the texture. My mom always browned her meatballs and then cooked them in her tomato sauce over low heat -- all. day. long. It literally transformed the texture of the meatballs (and the sausages, too). Plus, the meat was infused with all that glorious tomato flavor, and vice versa. My dad used to say Mom's meatballs and sauce were even better than his Italian grandmother's, and that's saying a lot.

Clearly when you can get around to it, you have to try the other version and do a comparison. I hate to think the perfect meatball is so close within your reach but these imposters have gotten in the way. It's a mystery...

Too bad the original try didn't yield the best meatballs ever. Your description at the beginning had me craving those meatballs.

Such a bummer that the first recipe and/or substitutions were less than ideal...but I love your commitment to that ideal on subsequent days!

If only my lame-ass students would devote that much effort and engagement to their research projects. (Sigh.)

Happy Thanksgiving!

Sorry, but it is the missing fat, that cooks out and darkens the tomato sauce. This is doable in a slow cooker and it keeps the meatballs and sauce moist and loose. Try these meatballs sliced and put on a pizza, a good way to use them up. Slow moist braising will help. Love the site. Thanks for the recipe.

Rindy

I've never made this recipe, but I can tell you that everytime I make meatballs, even when they are good the first day, the are ALWAYS so much better the next day.

Alton Brown's baked meatballs are pretty tasty, too, BTW.

I altered his recipe (for proportions, and for technique) for a party (skipped the spinach, used ground lamb and ground beef, seasoned with cumin and rosemary)

and I got rave reviews. Wish I'd written the details down.

Anyway, isn't experimenting with baked meatballs fun? Baked is SOOOO much easier than fussing over them in a skillet.

I think I'll need to try these.

Hi Luisa,

Found this post of yours while doing a meatball search (I was looking for Delfina Pizzeria's in SF - my go-to place for pizza). I made the Food & Wine version last night with a few of my own tweaks. I guess I have meatballs in my DNA - my Italian-American mom makes a mean one. Don't tell my mother, but the A16 ones I made last night blow hers away.

I can totally sympathise with the difficulty of writing a meatball recipe. A lot of it is "feel." - getting the moisture balance right and keeping the bread light or else soaking it briefly in milk then squeezing (the ricotta serves this purpose, I believe). The F& W version gets it pretty right.

My version of the F&W A16 recipe earned floridly obscene praise from my friends (SF foodies) that I cannot reprint here.

Okay, from one cook to another: My tweaks/notes for light, pillowy meatballs:

-- fresh bread - used less (about 5 oz - pulsed in food processor). I used an Italian batard.

-- the ground pork/pancetta combo is perfect - i recommend using it

-- eggs - used 2 jumbos instead of 3

-- added a few more spoonfuls of ricotta

(the bread/egg/moisture balance is key - you should start w/ the wet, then add your bread)

-- omit the dried oregano (I rarely use that), pump up the fennel a bit and crush it up in mortar/pestle

-- add some grated pecorino to the meat mixture itself

-- used good san marzano crushed tomatoes & a good few sploshes of wine, which makes a wetter brasing liquid and adds nice depth to the sauce. salt & pepper you sauce right in the can before adding to the meatballs.

-- if you roast the meatballs in a separate tray, make sure to scrape all the nice sticky bits from that pan into your baking dish w/ the sauce.

-- mixing is key - use open hand, like a paddle, in a figure eight/turning motion - the trick is to mix w/out compacting the meat.

-- ditto, when rolling - fast and very light - don't compress too much.

Okay - hope that wasn't too wonky!! I hope you give it a go sometime and get some nice SF vacation memories back.

Happy holidays (and adventures in cooking) to you.

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